"We Are The Best In The World At We Do"

Date: Nov 10, 2009

RE: Does anyone know what really happened Saturday night @ the Pan-Am in S.A?

Date: Nov 10, 2009

The truth hurts the guys were fighting regardless of the reason, it was dumb. The women were fighting over a guy (musican) that's the barebones truth. I was there and saw everything. It was an ugly scene.

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Oh!... Oh!... there's a guilty party posting! Are you one of the musicians or one of the groupies? LOL!

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Ya the simple truth is this, some guys were fighting over stupid stuff, drunk or not it was a stupid dangerous thing to do. Also the girls were fighting over a fellow musican, ex's and current gf's and family were all involved. I was not only there i played as well and am calling it like i see it. This makes us all as artists look terrible, i don't blame the fans for being upset, these events ruined a great time.

Date: Nov 10, 2009

I agree i am a fan and took my family there to enjoy a great evening. The music was good than all this fighting started. As a long time conjunto fan i am very upset at all that went down. People could have been hurt, over what stupid childish acts? As a fan YES i am mad things like this should never happen.

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Bar fights belong at Lerma's! Not at the Pan-Am! Some conjunto fans do take their children there and they should not have to witness anything like that!

Date: Nov 10, 2009

amen, the Pan-Am is a good place and people take families there this stuff needs to stay at the bars these groups are used to not a god place like this.

Date: Nov 10, 2009

I am also a musican and was there that nigh to preformt. Musican's #1 account of what happened is acurate. First the guys got into for stupid reasons, insults or not that was not the time or place to fight. Someone could have gotten badly injured or yes even killed, it was that bad!!As for the women yes they were fighting and arguing over a fellow musican and friend. As many of you all have said ex's and current gf's just don't mix along with family, it's a recipe for diaster and all hell broke lose. I would like to say i am sorry on behalf of myself and the other fellow musicans there. We were in the wrong cause this is never supposed to happen. Hopefully my musical brothers learn from this, and become better people. To conclude i don't blame the fans for their anger we let them down and deserve this, we brought it on to ourselfs.

Date: Nov 10, 2009

DAMN WHOM EVER WAS FIGHTING OVER A WOMEN IS SAD.. I WAS INVOLVED IN THE OUTSIDE FIGHT.. AFTER WAS TRYING TO LEAVE THE DANCE HALL EVERYTHING LOADED AND READY TO LEAVE AFTER 2 GUYS WERE PLAYING AN ACCORDION OUTSIDE THE DANCE HALL I STOPPED TO TALK TO ONE OF MY FREINDS WHEN THIS GUY IN THE ACCORDION WHICH I HAVE NEVER SEEN IN MY LIFE COMES TO ME AND SAYS YOU THINK YOU ARE ALL BIG ****. I TOLD HIM I DONT EVEN KNOW YOU AND IN NO WAY OR FORM AM I TRYING TO OFFEND U. HIS BROTHER CAME BEHIND ME TO HIT AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY TRYING TO PICK A FIGHT WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THAT WERE THERE TELLING THEM THAT THEY WERE NOBODIES AND ALL.. WELL WHEN THE GUY CAME TOWARDS ME TO HIT ME ALL I COULD DO WAS TO DEFEND MYSELF SO I DROPPED HIM DOWN SO HARD... THEN THE OTHER CAME AS WELL AND I KICKED HIM IN THE FACE...DROPPED HIM DOWN TOO...IT WAS EITHER THEM OR ME THEN I WENT INSIDE AND THERE THEY GO. I TRIED AVOID THIS BUT THEY KEPT ON..

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Tony thank-you for your response, shows that you manned up to what happend you earned my respect.

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Bravo Tony, you speaking up really helps carnal. Shows you owned up to what happened and that is to be respected. Thank you.

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Thanks Tony, takes ballz man but i respect you for coming forward.

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Thank you Tony

Date: Nov 10, 2009

YES IT WAS A SAD ENDING TO THAT DANCE. ACTUALLY WHEN I GOT THERE I SAID TO MYSELF WOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD TURN OUT ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN...WHEN IT COMES TO ME FEELING MY LIFE IS IN DANGER IVE BEEN THERE IN AND OUT I AM NO SWEET CANDY AND BEEN A WISE GUY MYSELF. I AM A MATURE PERSON AND KNOW BETTER IN THESE SITUATION ONLY THIS TIME WAS A VERY SERIOUS ONE AND ONE I WOULD NOT LIKE TO REPEAT. I AM A MUSICIAN AND THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN FOR 20 YEARS ALREADY. TO BAD FOR POOR SECURITY AT PAN AM AND YOUNG PEOPLE DRIKING AND CANT HANDLE IT.. ANY QUESTIONS OR DOUBTS JUST ASK..

TONY TIGRE SAENZ

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Thanks for the truth Tony. Very good move for saying it, you are truely respected.

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Thanks Man

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Well done! You know alot of these new younger bands(WANNABE's) can't produce good music so they choose to hate on everyone else that CAN! These guys are just impozzilble I tell you...........hint ,hint!

Date: Nov 10, 2009

ANYTIME AMIGOS ITS ONLY IF I MAY SAY CABRON WHEN A SITUATION LIKE THIS SNEAKS UP ON YOU.. MOST OF US DRINK I DRINK IN CAPITAL LETTERS BUT NEVER FALLING.. IF I WAS THAT DRUNK I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN DA KSAT NEWS AS BEING SEVERLY WOUNDED PERSON FOUND ON THE STREET OUTSIDE PANAM LOL AND NOTHIN LIKE THAT HAPPENED CAUSE I SAW EVERYTHING HAPPENING...NOT A PRETTY SIGHT.. THOUGHT I HAD LEFT ALL THAT BEHIND WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER BUT THERE ARE OTHER TONY'S OUT IN THE FIELD.. NOT BASHIN NO ONE NOT MY STYLE. JUST SAYING WHAT REALLY HAPPENED...

THKS,

TONY TIGRE SAENZ

Date: Nov 10, 2009

so did he get into a fight with impozzible

sorry if i am lost just cant figure it our with all the repeat post

Date: Nov 10, 2009

AS PER MY PREVIOUS MESSAGE I DONT KNOW THEM.. NEVER SEEN THEM BEFORE..

TONY TIGRE SAENZ

Date: Nov 10, 2009

No this has nothing to do with Impozible, at all. Tony thanks, i think all the fans wanted was an explanation,and as for your part you did what you needed to do. Thank, and hopefully the other Musican involved sees how much of a man you are and follows suit. Gracias

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Thanks Tony

Date: Nov 10, 2009

GOD WILLING HOPE TO SEE YOU GUYS THIS SUNDAY AT THE KEDA EVENT. TAKE CARE..

THANKS

TONY TIGRE SAENZ

Date: Nov 10, 2009

I'll take care of them! Like I did at the cook-off! Not to Worry!

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Thanks Tigre

Date: Nov 10, 2009

ORALE TCG SO THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE? WHO ARE THEY? WELL BETTER WITH NO NAMES.. BUT YES IT WAS NOT COOL AT ALL...

THKS,

TONY TIGRE SAENZ

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Tony you earned chingos or respect brother! Thanks for manning up to it. As for the girls fight let's see if the other party comes forward and learns from your example, of "Babassness"

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Badassness i meant lol sorry been a long day, your the man Tigre!

Date: Nov 10, 2009

That previous post is not from Johnny "El Brujo" Cruz because he has been banned from this site.

Whoever TCG is, please post your real name>

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Thank you Tony seems like your the main man, its ok we know who the other guy (girl fight) is, hopefully some of your ballz rub of on him. Gracias Tigre

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Thanks Tony

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Tony you earned all the respect of the fans back man. Thank you, you got "Big Grapefruits"

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Gracias

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Great move Tony, you are the man after this bro!

Date: Nov 10, 2009

Tigre has the "Biggest Grapefruits" in Conjunto!